PS Mommies Thread!

[TravelingGal]

Date: 7/22/2008 8:04:40 PM
Author: divergrrl
And sometimes you CAN''T be that discreet. I mean, getting a baby to latch on is a talent in and of itself. Some kids freak out if their heads are covered, and you have to get a good grip on your nipple, pinch it between your hands, and make sure the WHOLE KIT-N-KABOODLE goes in the babe''s mouth, or you will be a very very sad sorry momma with cracked bleeding nipples that feel like red hot pokers are searing through them while you nurse.

So, unless it comes very easy to you, or you & baby are old hats at it & have your routine down, it can be a trick to get latched. The last thing we mommas need is some ignoramus getting all freaked out by a boob. Geez...its SINGLE purpose is not to fill out a bikini top, its to feed a baby.


I think its more offensive to see teens/young women squeezed into super low slung jeans 3 sizes too small, with too tight tops that don''t cover their midriff, and topped off by a big old muffin top hanging out & a butt crack adorned with a neon thong peeking out.

Yeah, that is what I said Diver.

But I do understand the general "eek" that people have. Although you can''t see the nipple when you''re BFing, if you are going to do it in public without a coverup, there are those brief seconds of renegade nipple. People aren''t used to seeing boobs in public.

Like I said, I think it could have been a very interesting discussion if phrased civily to start with.

 

[VegasAngel]

Date: 7/22/2008 8:04:40 PM
Author: divergrrl
And sometimes you CAN'T be that discreet. I mean, getting a baby to latch on is a talent in and of itself. Some kids freak out if their heads are covered, and you have to get a good grip on your nipple, pinch it between your hands, and make sure the WHOLE KIT-N-KABOODLE goes in the babe's mouth, or you will be a very very sad sorry momma with cracked bleeding nipples that feel like red hot pokers are searing through them while you nurse.

So, unless it comes very easy to you, or you & baby are old hats at it & have your routine down, it can be a trick to get latched. The last thing we mommas need is some ignoramus getting all freaked out by a boob. Geez...its SINGLE purpose is not to fill out a bikini top, its to feed a baby.


I think its more offensive to see teens/young women squeezed into super low slung jeans 3 sizes too small, with too tight tops that don't cover their midriff, and topped off by a big old muffin top hanging out & a butt crack adorned with a neon thong peeking out.

HI,

LOL, exactly!

Most BF women must be discreet because I have not noticed a woman BF in public in gosh knows how long. My daughter was (& still is) easily distracted so dressing rooms became my best friends. No woman should be made to feel obligated to BF in private, though.

 

[Jas12]

Hi guys

busy weekend for me--was away visiting my sister and managed to pack in a movie (batman) musical (dirty dancing) shopping and 6 meals out into 2 days!!! Not good for the waist line or the wallet but lots of fun. Cohen travelled so well, one of our meals was at a fancy restaurant and i always feel nervous brining him to places like that cuz as much as i know i have the right to be there with him, others have the right to a quiet night out (i always think, what if it is some new parent''s first ''date night'' sans kiddo and i bring in a screaming baby into the place). He was great, i think he is getting used to being trucked around everywhere--this kid is always on the go.

The BF in public topic is timely for me--i am sad to admit i felt pressured into nursing in a bathroom stall this weekend

--not fun. the restuarant was so swanky and crowded and i just felt like i would get stared at. I would *not* be offended to see a woman BF anywhere and i feel like i have the right to do it anywhere so i know i need to get over it, but i am still getting used to the process in general so all in due time i suppose. When i got out of the b-room stall some lovely/funny mom said to me "i thought i heard gulping" and i smiled and she said "you know, i have 3 kids and i did the bathroom thing once before i said f*ck it and nursed anywhere and everywhere"

On a more positive note, the mall had a family b-room with a room for nursing moms that had comfy gliders and an intercom so dads could ''talk'' to moms without disturbing everyone else. I was in there with 4 other moms and we all chatted about our kids and nursed, it was so nice. Every large public space should have that.

I am glad i didn''t see that BF thread-i generally keep my mouth shut on this forum, or tone-down my views, but in that instance i may have been mean

Burk--that walker is SO funny, i can see why T luvs it

Diver--your hair looks great!

Lili--crummy that J won''t take the bottle (have you tried the Adiri bottle--that is what i give Cohen and it is supposed to be designed to help transition babies to a bottle but i dunno about that, Co still really prefers the breast) I was hesitant to give Co the bottle at 2 weeks (knowing that i planned to pump and have Charlie feed him once or twice a week) he took to it right away, but now is rejecting it a little. He fusses while he drinks from it. When he nurses he goes into a state of bliss, the eyes roll back, he hums and strokes my chest, but when he takes the bottle he looks angry and wiggles around, it''s just a matter of ''getting it done'' so i htink my bottle days are numbered--hope the next attempts go better for you. Let me know what you are success with.

 

[TravelingGal]

OK, back to catch up.

Glad everyone''s gotten their AF! I haven''t had relations with TGuy since we gave birth...not because I don''t want to, but because I am not on the pill yet. I have a Rx for the pill that you can take while BFing, but I don''t trust it so I have to go back to the doc and get a Rx for my regular BC pill. But I''ve been so lazy about it. I definitely have to do it this week as AF should make its appearance at the end of the month.

Burk, welcome back from vball camp! Don''t worry about trying to keep up...just keep posting those pics of Tayva and I''ll forgive you.

lili, so sorry to hear about the bottle feeding. That is a bummer and I have no advice to give you. I did read something on it the other night in my What to Expect the First Year book. Do you have it? Some of the advice may work for you.

Such great pics of J, she seems so full of character and is such a doll. You know I love her hair. I noticed in the third pic her eye creases are different in each eye. It''s cute! I am noticing this isn''t uncommon among asian babies and Amelia got the same trait. Her eyes shape is constantly changing...it fascinates me. I don''t think this happens to white babies?

Oh, and I do that tummy thing with Amelia on my knees too...and get hit with drool all the time. Oh so fun.

Curly, welcome back. Oooh nice...the ritz! And I love Lily...how do you get her hair so cute? What are you using...any special bands/bows?

msb, I''m with you. I''d love to have sex right now (TGuy is actually the more tired one, believe it or not), but the time we do have together, we actually enjoy having dinner, talking about our day and having a glass of wine to relax. Then we each have our own quiet time, which for me right now just edges out sex because I LOVE *me* time!!!

Jas, welcome back as well. That''s awful you were guilted into feeding Co in the loo. I think if nice restaurants want their patrons to BF in private, they should put in mother''s lounges. (Why is it that only Nordstroms and other high end departments stores seem to have them?) If someone had a problem with me BFing at a nice restaurant (and I would be discreet about it), I''d ask them, do you want me to feed my baby sitting on the toilet? I think most people don''t realize that is exactly what you have to do if there is nowhere else to sit in the restroom!

So I found out today that a few days after I start work from maternity leave, we are going to have a sales meeting in WI. This sucks. Tough enough to be going back to work...but 4 nights being away from my baby at this stage?

 

[Jas12]

Tgal--yuck about going back to work, will tguy look after her for those 4 days? My MIL offered (actually more like begged) to keep Cohen overnight this weekend cuz i have a wedding to go to and even if i could pump enough milk i don''t think i would, so i can imagine how hard it is to face 4 days. I am sure the first trip will be tough, but once you realize she''ll be fine maybe it will get easier ??

As for eye shape--Cohen''s have changed so much as well so it''s not just an asian thing. His have gone from narrow with heavy eyelids (a Charlie trait) to much more open and rounded (like my eyes). Speaking of asian babies, i saw many in the mall this weekend and Co looks absolutely massive next to their smaller stature. I even had one asian dad call his wife over to look at Cohen b/c his 10 month old daughter looked nearly the same size as my Co--he got such a kick out of it. Cohen is not off the charts or anything but he is long and has a good pudge so everyone remarks on how big he seems...i just wanted to snuggle the tiny babies, it seems like i never had one of those!

Lili-i forgot to mention, Cohen''s sleeping is regressing back to b/w 3-5 hrs as well--i am so sick of nursing twice a night, i just wish he could go with one night feeding, it would make a world of difference. I am trying to limit how much he eats so he gets used to going with less food with the hope that eventually the ''less'' will turn into ''none''/It has helped, but we have a ways to go. My doc told me it is good that they wake twice a night, it is SIDS protection, but i think she just said so to make me feel better


Q: did anyone have pelvic pain for months afterward? I still have mine and i am wondering if i should get it assessed by physio or something? I can''t jog at all and often it hurts just walking around or
putting on socks etc. similar to the pain i felt while pregnant. My poor body is a mess

 

[mrssalvo]

Jas12- someone asked me the other day if Jake was 6 months old. he's long and chunky too but I don't think he looks 6 months

i know what you mean about seeing smaller babies and thinking we never had one of those. I actually bought premmie clothes for my first b/c I thought she would be born small and she was 7lb 5 oz.

I heard that babies frequent waking was SIDS protection too but I don't know if it's true or not, although he could make some sense. Jake is still up twice as well. i was just reading up on the mini-pill (all the talk here has me nervous) and it says that mom's who nurse and do no supplementing with food or formula have a very low chance of getting preggo and continuing to nurse steadily though the night helps too. add to that the mini-pill and it's pretty much full proof. My point is, if you're still nursing around the clock you've got good built in BC until the baby is 6 months, so one good plus for the 2x a night feedings.

oh and I think you might want to get your pelvic pain checked out. I've been back to my somewhat normal exercise routine with no pains at all.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 7/22/2008 11:24:55 PM
Author: Jas12
Tgal--yuck about going back to work, will tguy look after her for those 4 days? My MIL offered (actually more like begged) to keep Cohen overnight this weekend cuz i have a wedding to go to and even if i could pump enough milk i don''t think i would, so i can imagine how hard it is to face 4 days. I am sure the first trip will be tough, but once you realize she''ll be fine maybe it will get easier ??

As for eye shape--Cohen''s have changed so much as well so it''s not just an asian thing. His have gone from narrow with heavy eyelids (a Charlie trait) to much more open and rounded (like my eyes). Speaking of asian babies, i saw many in the mall this weekend and Co looks absolutely massive next to their smaller stature. I even had one asian dad call his wife over to look at Cohen b/c his 10 month old daughter looked nearly the same size as my Co--he got such a kick out of it. Cohen is not off the charts or anything but he is long and has a good pudge so everyone remarks on how big he seems...i just wanted to snuggle the tiny babies, it seems like i never had one of those!

Lili-i forgot to mention, Cohen''s sleeping is regressing back to b/w 3-5 hrs as well--i am so sick of nursing twice a night, i just wish he could go with one night feeding, it would make a world of difference. I am trying to limit how much he eats so he gets used to going with less food with the hope that eventually the ''less'' will turn into ''none''/It has helped, but we have a ways to go. My doc told me it is good that they wake twice a night, it is SIDS protection, but i think she just said so to make me feel better


Q: did anyone have pelvic pain for months afterward? I still have mine and i am wondering if i should get it assessed by physio or something? I can''t jog at all and often it hurts just walking around or
putting on socks etc. similar to the pain i felt while pregnant. My poor body is a mess

Jas, I didn''t give birth vaginally, as you know, so I can''t help you there. Just wanted to say I hope it gets better but doesn''t sound like a bad idea to get it checked out.

And eye shape...what I mean by changing is that Amelia''s changes every DAY. One day it matches. The next the right is bigger. The next the left is bigger. It''s wiggy!

I did notice Co''s eyes are rounder. They look so cute looking out at me from those pics you post!

The kicker about my biz trip is that TGuy will not be home for a chunk of it! He has a huge company move they have been planning for months and will be working around the clock and staying at a hotel even though his office is only a few miles away. So I''m stressed that my mom will have to manage it all on her own. Thankfully, this is only for 2 out of the 4 days, and at least TGuy is "on-call" in case something happens.

Dealing with this today (I tried to see if there was wiggle room in the scheduling, but my normally understanding boss couldn''t do much about it) I just wanted to quit and be a SAHM. But I can''t give up this position. I work from home and bring in a great paycheck...I''m very lucky.

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 7/22/2008 11:37:22 PM
Author: mrssalvo
Jas12- someone asked me the other day if Jake was 6 months old. he''s long and chunky too but I don''t think he looks 6 months

i know what you mean about seeing smaller babies and thinking we never had one of those. I actually bought premmie clothes for my first b/c I thought she would be born small and she was 7lb 5 oz.

I heard that babies frequent waking was SIDS protection too but I don''t know if it''s true or not, although he could make some sense. Jake is still up twice as well. i was just reading up on the mini-pill (all the talk here has me nervous) and it says that mom''s who nurse and do no supplementing with food or formula have a very low chance of getting preggo and continuing to nurse steadily though the night helps too. add to that the mini-pill and it''s pretty much full proof. My point is, if you''re still nursing around the clock you''ve got good built in BC until the baby is 6 months, so one good plus for the 2x a night feedings.

Oh yeah...forgot to comment on the 2x waking thing.

Amelia DOES still wake up during the night, and it''s not uncommon for it to be twice. I''d say *most* nights she does still wake up. It''s usually around 3 am or so. So maybe it is a SIDS protection thing. But she''s already gotten used to the fact that I don''t feed her in the middle of the night, so she usually just wakes, coos, sucks on her thumb and passes out within a few minutes.

 

[mrssalvo]

tgal, I know it will be hard but Amelia will be fine. The first time I left my kids for a few days I cried like a baby when I left them and of course they had the time of their lives with my parents. Amelia will just love being with your mom and what a special bonding time they will be able to have together

 

[TravelingGal]

Date: 7/22/2008 11:41:32 PM
Author: mrssalvo
tgal, I know it will be hard but Amelia will be fine. The first time I left my kids for a few days I cried like a baby when I left them and of course they had the time of their lives with my parents. Amelia will just love being with your mom and what a special bonding time they will be able to have together

I know. I just have to remember my mom is amazing woman and has figured out so many things on her own. I always think with her limited English she will run into obstacles, but she''s managed to do so much and I have to remind myself she is a resourceful woman.

I just worry about her age and her memory (which isn''t the best these days). If I''m tired watching Amelia all day, I wonder how she is going to manage. But then again, she watched my dad for many years, fed him and changed him. I guess this won''t be all that different...except more fun.

 

[Kaleigh]

Tgal,
I know it will be hard to leave Amelia. I am guessing your Mom is up to the challenge, look at all she''s been through. I think this will be such a wonderful bonding experience for her, and TGuy is a call away.

I didn''t have family to look after my babies, you are a lucky gal. Best of luck on your business trip!!!

 

[lili]

Date: 7/22/2008 10:42:00 PM
Author: TravelingGal
Jas, welcome back as well. That''s awful you were guilted into feeding Co in the loo. I think if nice restaurants want their patrons to BF in private, they should put in mother''s lounges. (Why is it that only Nordstroms and other high end departments stores seem to have them?) If someone had a problem with me BFing at a nice restaurant (and I would be discreet about it), I''d ask them, do you want me to feed my baby sitting on the toilet? I think most people don''t realize that is exactly what you have to do if there is nowhere else to sit in the restroom!

Hehe, I''d probably asked if they''d mind having their meal on the toilet.
Why should my baby enjoy her meal with the stench of the stall?

 

[lili]

Jas12
Welcome back!
Wow, sounds like you had an awesome time with your sister.
You are lucky Co is such a good traveller and he''s able to sleep in his car seat.
I''m one of the lucky few whose kid refuses to sleep in her car seat.
Hey, I seem to get the bad end of the stick with this kid

-- refuses the bottle, not napping, refusing to sleep in the car seat, etc.
Must be payback for the easy pregnancy and delivery.

And she''s gotten worst with the nighttime sleep too.
Normally, she''d wake at night to sleep and then fall back asleep.
But last night, she was fussing and grunting and didn''t go back to sleep for 2 hours.
And tonight, she was fussing and fighting to go down for her sleep too.
Hope it''s just another growth spurt cuz my patience is wearing thin with her

TGal
Hehe, is it that noticeable with her eyes?
My dad called her big-small eyes because of it.
They are really obvious when she doesn''t get enough sleep, which is always since she''s not napping!
I guess she took after me since my eyes were like that for the longest time.
Funny though since they were the same during the first month.

Yup, I do have the what to expect for the first year.
But who has time to read with J not going down?
DH did read it and we did try some of the methods with no luck.

Bummer that your TDY is that soon after you go back to work.
At least now with the camera on cell phones and wireless internet, you can see Amelia still everyday

 

[TravelingGal]

short end of the stick lili? No way...not with that cutie!!!

Re: eyes. Yeah, I can tell, but I always look closely at the eyes of Asian babies. And you''re right, could be hereditary because I too, had different eyes for many years! When I left for college, they evened out on their own, which was totally weird and never changed back. I had one eye crease and not the other until then. That''s why Amelia''s eyes drive my batty some days. Knowing how tough putting on makeup is on two different eyes, I wanted hers to even out.

But now I just think it''s cute and part of her. I like it on J too, so maybe now my view has shifted into thinking it''s pretty darn special. Still wondering how the makeup aspect will be managed though.

 

[lili]

Date: 7/23/2008 2:02:49 AM
Author: TravelingGal
short end of the stick lili? No way...not with that cutie!!!
Re: eyes. Yeah, I can tell, but I always look closely at the eyes of Asian babies. And you''re right, could be hereditary because I too, had different eyes for many years! When I left for college, they evened out on their own, which was totally weird and never changed back. I had one eye crease and not the other until then. That''s why Amelia''s eyes drive my batty some days. Knowing how tough putting on makeup is on two different eyes, I wanted hers to even out.
But now I just think it''s cute and part of her. I like it on J too, so maybe now my view has shifted into thinking it''s pretty darn special. Still wondering how the makeup aspect will be managed though.

Right, "short" end of the stick.

Hehe, I remember days when I would just sit in front of the mirror and manually creased the non-creased eyelid

 

[lili]

Burk
Love the walker.
Very unique.
Tayva is getting an early start driving huh?
Anyway, glad to hear that she''s feeling much better and didn''t have to the the GI? test.

 

[lili]

Curly
How nice to spend a week in PR.
A much needed vacation I bet.

What a cutie Lily is.
Love her little palm tree

 

[Lorelei]

Diver, you hair looks gorgeous, it really suits you!!!

 

[msb700]

passing by real quick here, but just had to comment:

Diver: LOOOOOVE the new haircut!! it really really suits u!! and in that side shot, u look a little bit like Elizabeth Hurley!

Tgal: didnt get a chance to see the thread on LIW, but i know we can depend on u to stand up for us BF mommies!!

Curly: welcome back!! love ur girls pic!!

Tacori: good luck with the teething

little k''s molars are coming out and they are taking SOOOO long and they''re not much we can do about it

....i guess ull just have to keep piling on the soothing gel and giving her some iced teethers to help soothe the pain..



luckystar112: yup multiple holes!!! hehehe..i remember when i first started BF and i was like ''wwwwoooowwww'' wats going on here??

 

[ellaila]

Wow, there''s a lot to catch up on here!

First off, Diver, LOVE LOVE LOVE the hair!!! It''s *almost perfect* for you ... the perm, of course, was the true perfection though

Oh, and thanks for the bathtub rec. We got that inflatable one, and it works like a charm. I''ve got a funny photo of the two of them togtether in it, I''ll post it later.

Lili, LOL at asking someone if they want to eat their meal on a toilet! I missed that whole BF thread (darnit!), but obviously I feel the same as pretty much all of you here do. Love when people judge others without ever having been anywhere close to being in their shoes. I think a big fat "whatever" is the proper response to people like that. No point in arguing with clueless people, and you can''t rationalize with people who aren''t rational! As for squirting ... ha ha, I forgot about that! I squirted many times after a shower -- far, too!!

Those photos of Jadelyn are awesome! She just gets cuter and cuter!

Jas, sounds like you had a great weekend!

re: birth control ... I started with the NuvaRing last week, and I''m kinda freaked out about it working because, well, I just don''t get it! I feel like I''m going to be anxious every month waiting for my period to make sure I''m not pregnant. Not that we have "relations" all that often, believe me (I fall into the "I''d rather sleep!" category too), but as many of us know, it only takes one time to make a baby!

Tacori, I got stretch marks too - late in the game (30+ weeks), but they def. showed up! My biggest issue though is the extra saggy skin on my belly. Ain''t nothing gonna make that go away (other than a scalpel). I took "How to Lose Your Mummy Tummy" book out of the library
last week, and yes I''ve definitely got that diastasis recti (separation of the muscles), but did I actually DO any of the exercises in the book? Of course not. So I will never look HOT in a bikini again, but so be it. I''m back into my old clothes (though some do fit me a bit oddly around the tush. Grr.), so that''s the best I can hope for I guess. Sorry to hear about Tessa''s icky teething bout - poor girly.

Burk, any teeth for Tayva yet?

 

[Lauren8211]

Just wanted to pop in and tell you guys that I was reading your BF discussion (I was involved in the LIW thread), and you''ve definitely helped me see another side. While yes, seeing someone BF in public does weird me out initially, I totally see your point. You shouldn''t have to run to a bathroom to breast feed. I wouldn''t want to eat in a bathroom either! I also did not realize how hard it was to BF a baby, I thought it came naturally to them.

Just wanted to tell you that I''m definitely more understanding of the situation after reading your thread.

Thanks!

 

[Tacori E-ring]

Jas12, I totally agree about mall bathrooms being the best. BRU is good too. Glad you had such a good weekend! I also think if you have pain you should go to the doctor.

TGal, when are you going to WI? Maybe we will overlap. That does suck that you are being thrown back into it. It will all work out though. I don''t think T''s eye shape has change but her eye color does. That is interesting.

msb, we have her some baby ty. last night. Seemed to help. At least she didn''t constantly wake up screaming. Hope K''s molars pop through soon!

Ella, oh to be in my old clothes again...*sigh*...my neighbor said it just takes time. Boo!

So we are leaving for Vegas tonight. Pray for us. I am so worried about this trip. I was on the verge of a panic attack last night. I wish I could wiggle my nose and just BE there. I''ll miss you ladies!

 

[Lorelei]

Tacori, it will be fine - have a great time friend!

 

[divergrrl]

Date: 7/23/2008 9:35:29 AM
Author: elledizzy5
I also did not realize how hard it was to BF a baby, I thought it came naturally to them.

OMG...you have no idea. I didn''t either until I had a kid. Somewhere on the preggo thread I list my bfing woes. I won''t get into again, but 3 STRAIGHT months of sheer hell, 24/7. Going to the lactation clinic every other day to be sure my son wasn''t losing weight. Getting mastitis (I''d rather go through labor & delivery than ever get mastitis). Sobbing every time I fed him (which is about 10 times a day as a newborn).

Tacori went thru hell too & perservered like a champ, (nursing on all fours to get rid of clogged milk ducts)

But....those times when I would get him on right, and its just the greatest thing.

It''s that thing you just can''t wrap your head around when you don''t have kids (and nieces, dogs, your friends kids, siblings absolutely do not even come close) but when you have your own baby, someone who will call you mom, all the stuff that preoccupied your head as important suddenly ceases to matter.

It''s not that you don''t care or let yourself go, its more like a light goes off and you are like "ah, I get it now".

Momma bear & her cub all the way.

So its ok if you don''t get it now, but when it comes to breastfeeding....there is a lot in this world to get offended about. A mother feeding her infant is not one of them. And sure its weird to see a flash of boob for a second if you aren''t used to it, that''s ok...but I think it would be nice if people relaxed the sexual connection to a boob and realized its just a "feedbag" more or less.

Thanks for being open minded.


Jas, I used to love the Nordstrom lounge. In fact, I still feed D her bottle there, because Jake can run around safely (its an enclosed room) and I don''t have to worry about stranger danger. There are always moms lounging on the comfy couches, end tables for our Starbucks, and we all chat about the babies. Much more comfy! I love feeding lounges.

 

[Lauren8211]

Date: 7/23/2008 9:57:12 AM
Author: divergrrl

Date: 7/23/2008 9:35:29 AM
Author: elledizzy5
I also did not realize how hard it was to BF a baby, I thought it came naturally to them.

OMG...you have no idea. I didn''t either until I had a kid. Somewhere on the preggo thread I list my bfing woes. I won''t get into again, but 3 STRAIGHT months of sheer hell, 24/7. Going to the lactation clinic every other day to be sure my son wasn''t losing weight. Getting mastitis (I''d rather go through labor & delivery than ever get mastitis). Sobbing every time I fed him (which is about 10 times a day as a newborn).

Tacori went thru hell too & perservered like a champ, (nursing on all fours to get rid of clogged milk ducts)

But....those times when I would get him on right, and its just the greatest thing.

It''s that thing you just can''t wrap your head around when you don''t have kids (and nieces, dogs, your friends kids, siblings absolutely do not even come close) but when you have your own baby, someone who will call you mom, all the stuff that preoccupied your head as important suddenly ceases to matter.

It''s not that you don''t care or let yourself go, its more like a light goes off and you are like ''ah, I get it now''.

Momma bear & her cub all the way.

So its ok if you don''t get it now, but when it comes to breastfeeding....there is a lot in this world to get offended about. A mother feeding her infant is not one of them. And sure its weird to see a flash of boob for a second if you aren''t used to it, that''s ok...but I think it would be nice if people relaxed the sexual connection to a boob and realized its just a ''feedbag'' more or less.

Yeah, I had no idea about all of this, but my mom didn''t breastfeed me, so I''d never really heard that side of it. I guess now when FF and I have kids, I''ll know what I''m up against!!

It''s funny that I''m weirded out by breastfeeding initially, because I''m a very liberal/open-minded person, nudity doesnt bother me AT ALL. I''m not sure why breastfeeding bugged me to see. I guess hearing that kind of made it "click" that if nudity doesnt bother me, why would a baby feeding bother me? Makes no sense, and I''m definitely working on changing that.

Thanks for your insight and comments!

 

[HeadOverHeels4James]

OK I feel like I have to comment on this now. Some of your ladies were ready to bash me without even reading what I actually wrote. Let me state some facts. I said I was all for breastfeeding and I do think it's a natural and beautiful process. I do hope to be able to! I just thought it was rude to have someone sit next to me and squirt me with their milk while I was eating my meal. I do agree suggesting you go to the bathroom WAS gross

I was not thinking. I have no problem with people breastfeeding the thing was... this lady wasn't being discrete we were in a restaurant eating and she just pulls out her boob and starts doing it, not covering herself at all!

I even asked my mom if I was out of line about this (she breastfed my brother and I) She said no, and if done discretely there is no problem with it anywhere. So if I'm a terrible person for not wanting someone else's breast milk in my food when I'm eating, I apologize!

 

[Tacori E-ring]

elledizzy5, BFing is the best gift you can give your child. That being said not everyone can physically do it. I think like any parenting thing it's a hot button (and makes us mamas angry when those who don't HAVE children comment negatively). BFing is even MORE sensitive b/c it IS so difficult. And it is hard not to take it personally (or blame yourself) when it doesn't work out. You'll see one day. I hope it *does* come easy for you but I find you gotta be a stubborn lady to get through it. Poor TGal had more strength and will than most of us can even imagine. She tried so hard. Diver as well. Me, well yes, I was one giant milk clog for 6.5 months

. Very painful. Don't even get me started on that stupid shield. *sigh* Next time you are in public try to find a private, comfy place for a nursing mom. Besides a mall or baby store I have yet to find one. Thank you for coming over to mama land. Very brave of you! I am glad we could open your eyes a little.

Lorelei, thanks dear! We might be hated during the flight but not much we can do about that! I am sure it will be a blast. I will have to investigate if we do our big GTG there

 

[Tacori E-ring]

By the way the law does protect BFing moms. HOH4J, I DID read your thread. Perhaps it is not so much WHAT you said but HOW you said it? But let''s not repeat what happened in your thread. This thread is a safe, non-judging place that is very important to us moms.

 

[Lauren8211]

Date: 7/23/2008 10:23:24 AM
Author: Tacori E-ring
elledizzy5, BFing is the best gift you can give your child. That being said not everyone can physically do it. I think like any parenting thing it''s a hot button (and makes us mamas angry when those who don''t HAVE children comment negatively). BFing is even MORE sensitive b/c it IS so difficult. And it is hard not to take it personally (or blame yourself) when it doesn''t work out. You''ll see one day. I hope it *does* come easy for you but I find you gotta be a stubborn lady to get through it. Poor TGal had more strength and will than most of us can even imagine. She tried so hard. Diver as well. Me, well yes, I was one giant milk clog for 6.5 months

. Very painful. Don''t even get me started on that stupid shield. *sigh* Next time you are in public try to find a private, comfy place for a nursing mom. Besides a mall or baby store I have yet to find one. Thank you for coming over to mama land. Very brave of you! I am glad we could open your eyes a little.

Lorelei, thanks dear! We might be hated during the flight but not much we can do about that! I am sure it will be a blast. I will have to investigate if we do out big GTG there

So now should I be mad at my mom for not trying?

Hehe.. just teasing!

Yeah, looking at it through a BFing mommy''s eyes is a lot different. Babies are hard enough, but to get negative feedback when you''re only trying to feed your baby isn''t fair. I really had NO idea that it was so difficult and possibly painful, this is seriously shocking! Scary, also, which is why I try to stay away from the mommy/preggers threads. Sometimes I read your stuff and I''m scared to have kids!!

 

[HeadOverHeels4James]

I understand that but at the same time I don''t think it''s right for you guys to continuously talk about it and me, like some of you did.