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Kunzite - It sounds like your sister's comment came from a lack of knowledge, so it would probably be easier for all involved to just let it slide. I know it stung though! It stung me a bit when I read it.
Regarding waiting another month, here is my unsolicited advice. The only thing I would have changed about TTC'g would have been to start sooner. I was ready. DH was hesitant, and so we waited. Since we have had difficulties, he now wishes that we would have started sooner too. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Because you mentioned that you'd like to lose more weight, assuming you have no other reasons for waiting, then you might throw caution to the wind on the one remaining month. If you do not get pregnant the first month, then you'll still have that additional month to lose if you want to. If you do get pregant, well then, what a blessing that would be!!!! I realize you did not ask for advice. This is just how I view things after trying for a while. Feel free to ignore me!!
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As some of you know from the Early Pregnancy Loss thread, I am waiting for AF to return before proceeding with treatment, which will likely be another IUI cycle. I decided now would be a good time to try accupuncture again at a more conveniently located office. I had two accupuncture treatments in November, and really liked the practioner, but it is was just too far for me to travel after work and too much traffic.
I believe Ryan Claire asked about accupuncture in the Ferility Diet thread, so I thought I would update with my new experience here in case anyone is interested. If anyone else has had accupuncture, I'd love to hear your experiences too.
So, my appointment on Saturday was quite different from my prior experience. This accupuncturist is Chinese and practiced in China for many years prior to training in NYC for 4 years. She explained a lot more about what she wanted to achieve through the treatment and a bit of the philosophy behind the treatment as well. The office was much more utilitarian, whereas my other accupuncturist's office was very nicely decorated, comfortable, relaxing with different treatment rooms for different patients. This office was bright, cramped, very busy with entire families arriving at a time (grandparents, children and grandchildren) and one treatment room with dividing screens. This was a bit less relaxing for me.
The accupuncturist talked to me for quite a bit before my appointment. She asked me about my cycles (27-38 days on a natural cycle). I noted that I now regularly have clotting in my AF (sorry for the TMI) and have for maybe a year and a half now. This seemed to be a very important fact from her perspective. She later told me that it is one of her goals to correct this.
The treatment table is padded (light mattress) and very warm. When she began inserting the needles, I thought how pleasant that I did not feel them being inserted (just like last time.) Then she asked me if I felt them, when I responded no, she said that she would stimulate them, that I should feel them, and she was a bit dismayed when I told her I did not feel them at my prior treatments. So, stimulation can be done in a number of ways, including electrical (eek!), but she just manually moved the needle (very thin and flexible) back and forth until I felt it. Sometimes, I would feel the needle just enough and tell her, but then other times, YEESH, my leg would raise involuntarily in reaction to the pain. This was, of course, a bit jarring and unexpected. Every time it would happen, the accupuncturist seemed very pleased, "Good", she would say. But, then the pain stopped almost immediately. She left me in the room for 20 minutes with a nice heavy eye pillow on my eyes. I was extremely relaxed during the treatment, but did not feel the same clarity of mind that I felt following my other sessions. I will mention this to her at our next appointment.
She also prescribed some herbs. Meh. I restisted as first because I know people who have gone for accupuncture and leave the office on the first visit with $300+ worth of pills, but when she told me the herbs are specially mixed at a lab and the cost will likely be $30-ish, it seemed that the herbs were actually being prescribed to help me and not simply to increase the practice's profits. So the herbs will arrive in powdered form, need to be dissolved in hot water and will taste terrible. We'll see how it goes. She explained that in China, you would go to accupuncturist for treatment 8 days in a row, whereas here that is not a feasible schedule, so herbs are prescribed as a complement to the treatment.
I think I was preliminarily diagnosed as having an issue with my liver - stagnant liver maybe? I will have to talk to her more about this at my next visit. This is why she thinks I have the blood clotting, which she seems confident she can resolve. It will be very interesting to see if that is the case.
She told me that she had 20 pregnancies in her office last year. Of the 20, two-thirds were also receiving fertility treatment. The other third were not. I neglected to ask how many women came to her for fertility issues in that year, i.e. how many patients did not have success. This was statistician-DH's question after the fact. I don't think of things in the same way as him. All I thought was 20 babies!!!!
Fisher - I thought of you during this visit - first, when I started feeling pain during the needle stimulation (how funny that I should think of you right then, right?) I was thinking how you would not have liked it! I thought of you later too, when she recommended a book, The Infertility Cure, and website, http://www.thefertilesoul.com/, which I thought might interest you.
Yikes, that was a long post!! Just wanted to share as many details as I thought might be interesting for those considering accupuncture.
Regarding waiting another month, here is my unsolicited advice. The only thing I would have changed about TTC'g would have been to start sooner. I was ready. DH was hesitant, and so we waited. Since we have had difficulties, he now wishes that we would have started sooner too. Hindsight is 20/20, right? Because you mentioned that you'd like to lose more weight, assuming you have no other reasons for waiting, then you might throw caution to the wind on the one remaining month. If you do not get pregnant the first month, then you'll still have that additional month to lose if you want to. If you do get pregant, well then, what a blessing that would be!!!! I realize you did not ask for advice. This is just how I view things after trying for a while. Feel free to ignore me!!
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As some of you know from the Early Pregnancy Loss thread, I am waiting for AF to return before proceeding with treatment, which will likely be another IUI cycle. I decided now would be a good time to try accupuncture again at a more conveniently located office. I had two accupuncture treatments in November, and really liked the practioner, but it is was just too far for me to travel after work and too much traffic.
I believe Ryan Claire asked about accupuncture in the Ferility Diet thread, so I thought I would update with my new experience here in case anyone is interested. If anyone else has had accupuncture, I'd love to hear your experiences too.
So, my appointment on Saturday was quite different from my prior experience. This accupuncturist is Chinese and practiced in China for many years prior to training in NYC for 4 years. She explained a lot more about what she wanted to achieve through the treatment and a bit of the philosophy behind the treatment as well. The office was much more utilitarian, whereas my other accupuncturist's office was very nicely decorated, comfortable, relaxing with different treatment rooms for different patients. This office was bright, cramped, very busy with entire families arriving at a time (grandparents, children and grandchildren) and one treatment room with dividing screens. This was a bit less relaxing for me.
The accupuncturist talked to me for quite a bit before my appointment. She asked me about my cycles (27-38 days on a natural cycle). I noted that I now regularly have clotting in my AF (sorry for the TMI) and have for maybe a year and a half now. This seemed to be a very important fact from her perspective. She later told me that it is one of her goals to correct this.
The treatment table is padded (light mattress) and very warm. When she began inserting the needles, I thought how pleasant that I did not feel them being inserted (just like last time.) Then she asked me if I felt them, when I responded no, she said that she would stimulate them, that I should feel them, and she was a bit dismayed when I told her I did not feel them at my prior treatments. So, stimulation can be done in a number of ways, including electrical (eek!), but she just manually moved the needle (very thin and flexible) back and forth until I felt it. Sometimes, I would feel the needle just enough and tell her, but then other times, YEESH, my leg would raise involuntarily in reaction to the pain. This was, of course, a bit jarring and unexpected. Every time it would happen, the accupuncturist seemed very pleased, "Good", she would say. But, then the pain stopped almost immediately. She left me in the room for 20 minutes with a nice heavy eye pillow on my eyes. I was extremely relaxed during the treatment, but did not feel the same clarity of mind that I felt following my other sessions. I will mention this to her at our next appointment.
She also prescribed some herbs. Meh. I restisted as first because I know people who have gone for accupuncture and leave the office on the first visit with $300+ worth of pills, but when she told me the herbs are specially mixed at a lab and the cost will likely be $30-ish, it seemed that the herbs were actually being prescribed to help me and not simply to increase the practice's profits. So the herbs will arrive in powdered form, need to be dissolved in hot water and will taste terrible. We'll see how it goes. She explained that in China, you would go to accupuncturist for treatment 8 days in a row, whereas here that is not a feasible schedule, so herbs are prescribed as a complement to the treatment.
I think I was preliminarily diagnosed as having an issue with my liver - stagnant liver maybe? I will have to talk to her more about this at my next visit. This is why she thinks I have the blood clotting, which she seems confident she can resolve. It will be very interesting to see if that is the case.
She told me that she had 20 pregnancies in her office last year. Of the 20, two-thirds were also receiving fertility treatment. The other third were not. I neglected to ask how many women came to her for fertility issues in that year, i.e. how many patients did not have success. This was statistician-DH's question after the fact. I don't think of things in the same way as him. All I thought was 20 babies!!!!
Fisher - I thought of you during this visit - first, when I started feeling pain during the needle stimulation (how funny that I should think of you right then, right?) I was thinking how you would not have liked it! I thought of you later too, when she recommended a book, The Infertility Cure, and website, http://www.thefertilesoul.com/, which I thought might interest you.
Yikes, that was a long post!! Just wanted to share as many details as I thought might be interesting for those considering accupuncture.
Shhhh! He's going to give you my e-mail address, I think! Woot woot! Very excited! Thanks for the reassurance about AF and O... 
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