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Cushion modified brilliant vs Old miner help

Hey!!! I’m finally here :lol:

In the video of the 4 options I prefer the two on the right.. I couldn’t tell if that’s the L & J? Sorry, I just put in 50 hours at work this week and am seeing cross eyed so maybe don’t put to much weight in my opinion :lol-2:



I know it’s stressful, believe me, I get it. I have my eye on something and am working OT every other week until summer and praying no one finds it lol. When you are watching that video is there one your eyes go back to? Other than the L. Order that one in. The odds that any of them are immediately selling are slim so take your time, breathe, listen to your heart.

You were asking about depth and darkness. Lulu mentioned fire… when a diamond has fire it’s incredibly special, you see all the pastel colors in the facets. You don’t get this usually with shallow diamonds. This may be why you are drawn to the L… is it possible to have you post the dimensions and pricing of each of them?
 
Dreamer_D said:
Nope to the H.
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:wall: :((Omg really? I was starting to like the H and now I'm not sure again! In this video I think the H (on the left) looks nice!

https://imgur.com/OC5Yi1c

Also, I noticed the girdle on the H is marked as faceted! Is this a bad thing :O And does anyone have any idea based on the how it looks, what time period this was likely from? I remember someone had an estimate of the L and was wondering if anyone has an idea of the H's age :)
 
lulu_ma said:
Can you run to any local stores this weekend?

Does the L ever face up white or always vanilla?

In some vids, the L faces up very similarly to the H, I, and J. The tint is most apparent from the side.

The thing about diamond color is that it’s all relative. Your eye will see the tint if the L is next to a colorless stone. But if the tint still bothers you when you have the L alone, then the L is probably not for you.
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It does face up pretty white in certain lighting! I think the warmth definitely showed from the side. I think the tint did bother me enough for me to ask my jeweler to help search for more. But if the H doesn't sparkle nearly as well as the L, then I will have to do some thinking before Monday...
 
lavenderdragonfly23 said:
is it possible to have you post the dimensions and pricing of each of them?
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Yes let me just compile that into one comment here! Is pricing fair for these? :think:

L 3.83 - 9.11 x 8.58 x 6.04 mm
H 2.63 - 8.85 x 8.25 x 5.03 mm
 
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Do you have the mm and pricing of the other two as well? The I & J…
 
peachflower said:
:wall: :((Omg really? I was starting to like the H and now I'm not sure again! In this video I think the H (on the left) looks nice!

https://imgur.com/OC5Yi1c

Also, I noticed the girdle on the H is marked as faceted! Is this a bad thing :O And does anyone have any idea based on the how it looks, what time period this was likely from? I remember someone had an estimate of the L and was wondering if anyone has an idea of the H's age :)
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You can see it in person and decide. Why not? The lighting those diamonds are in is great for seeing faceting but it won’t show issues with light play and return. Where you would be more likely to see a difference is in sun or spot lighting. Less contrast and sparkle. The lighting in the other videos shows the center being lazy IMO. But I could be wrong. Maybe you will love it?

Faceted girdle means that it can been recut at some point. Could be just the girdle to remove flea bites or address a knife edge girdle. Could be a more extensive recut can’t really tell. Age is likely similar to the L. Pre-1900s… unless it’s been tweaked more than just the girdle.
 
peachflower said:
Yes let me just compile that into one comment here! Is pricing fair for these? :think:

L - 9.11 x 8.58 x 6.04 mm
H - 8.85 x 8.25 x 5.03 mm
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Carat weight?
 
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Can we see the cert for the H? (block out the cert # of course)
 
lavenderdragonfly23 said:
I think of a faceted girdle like a beautiful old lady just getting a little Botox :lol-2: … still the same old lady, just refreshed a bit.
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lol. I feel very differently. I don’t trust the provenance of a stone that’s been recut unless I didn’t myself.
 
Hmmm. Here's a comp from Grace for the H. Maybe $34k is a bit high.

jewelsbygrace.com

2.40ct Old Mine Cut Diamond Solitaire, GIA H VVS2

An incredibly rare find for us - a beautifully faced old mine cut with a gorgeous shape, and a high color and high clarity to boot! We set her in our vintage-inspired solitaire with 6 delicate claw prongs in rich yellow gold. With its simple and clean lines, the look is timeless and elegant, and...
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FWIW, I think that Grace's is 100% antique.
 
lulu_ma said:
How old is the cert? @Dreamer_D with table size and depth what's the probability that this is newly cut stone? A faceted girdle always gives me pause...
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My mind was going the same place as yours. Near colorless, unusual depth and table combo for a true antique, the girdle. The cut is giving me new vibes.

It could still be old. Cuts were all over the place back then. When OP asked I said pre 1900 because that’s when cushions were more common… but usually the crown is higher and the table smaller because they followed the shape of the rough. Cutting a shallower stone from rough meant the rest of the crystal was wasted because they didn’t have the tech to cut the crystal in two and get a smaller diamond from too half.

I don’t want to poison it. If OP wants an near colorless true old cut this may be their only option and the possibility it’s not actually old is the down side (plus less ideal cut). Up side is color. As I said earlier, true antiques in this color are nearly impossible to find.

The L is a true antique in my opinion and likely cut pre-1880s.
 
Dreamer_D said:
Looking again the indented natural and extra facet point to true antique. So jury is out and will remain out bc there is no way to know for sure! Hence my dislike of faceted girdles.

I like that Grace stone, agree it’s a true antique.
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I asked the jeweler what the history of this stone is, she is going to ask the supplier for me because she knows I am trying to confirm it is a true antique. Will let you know what she says on Monday! But I just feel so pressured to make a choice by then in case I miss out on the L!!
 
Dreamer_D said:
Looking again the indented natural and extra facet point to true antique. So jury is out and will remain out bc there is no way to know for sure! Hence my dislike of faceted girdles.

I like that Grace stone, agree it’s a true antique.
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For education purposes, if one is wanting a true antique, when looking at the cert indented natural + extra facet could be a clue that the stone is more than likely an antique because it was cut initially by hand and repaired at some point? And polish/symmetry are probably “good vs excellent”?

And a new diamond cut to look like an OMC or OEC would have the extra facet but not the natural indent because of the tech today that makes diamonds look more perfect? And polish/symmetry are probably “excellent vs good”?
 
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Wow so much to catch up on and I'm just waking up lol. I echo what everyone else has said. If you just want a white stone then the H might be for you. But it probably won't be showing any pastel colours that old cuts are known for. The faceting isn't as nice as the L. I hope you can go see these in person. I mean even if they're off hold by Monday, can you see them all on Tuesday?
 
This vendor often has 10% off sales and maybe there's a little more wiggle room.

But I would only serious consider this ring with a GIA cert. Probably too ornate for you but I LOVE IT.

If measurements are accurate depth is 72%. See the puffy crown? Should have good fire irl.

www.estatediamondjewelry.com

3.43ct Antique Cushion Cut Diamond Platinum Olton Ring - EDJ

This stunning ring features a 3.43ct antique cushion-cut diamond, J color and VS2 clarity. Handcrafted in platinum in the style of the Edwardian era.
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Okay-I think I turned over every rock I could think of!
 
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lulu_ma said:
Okay-I think I turned over every rock I could think of!
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Haha thank you so much, really appreciate all the help!

I guess I do have to wait and see the H in person to decide if I like how it sparkles. In certain lighting/angles I do see the pastel fire, but I know it's not as eye-catching as the L!
maryjane04 said:
I mean even if they're off hold by Monday, can you see them all on Tuesday?
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I will only be able to see the H in person on Tuesday. I am going to attempt to ask if she can hold off on returning it until I see the H on Tuesday, so just 1 more day. But I am not hopeful that is possible :( I may have to make a game time decision on Monday if I am ok letting go of the L... :knockout:
 
I really hope the vendor is able to help you see both stones in person so you're happy and confident in your decision. After this is all done and over we'd love to know who you're working with as another source for old cuts.
 
maryjane04 said:
I really hope the vendor is able to help you see both stones in person so you're happy and confident in your decision. After this is all done and over we'd love to know who you're working with as another source for old cuts.
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I will keep you all updated as always :) I am thinking the worst case scenario here is that I lose out on the L, don't love the H, and it's back to square one of looking at more stones :D

And YES I am so very excited to do a ~grand reveal~ of both my ring and who I work with to design/set it once it is complete and in my hands! :sun: I wish I could just fast forward to that moment!! :lol: But this process has been really fun (even with the stress!)
 
Hahaha I love the positivity. And I'm not complaining about looking at more stones lol. I'm throwing this out there and totally off track but maybe you could look at a 5ct M :lol-2:
 
maryjane04 said:
Hahaha I love the positivity. And I'm not complaining about looking at more stones lol. I'm throwing this out there and totally off track but maybe you could look at a 5ct M :lol-2:
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Hahaha I think that is a bit too big for me :lol: I wish I could pull off a stone that big!

Might as well stay positive during this process! I think no matter which stone I choose, I will grow to love my ring since it is one of a kind! That being said, still want to make the right choice for myself and have no regrets :)
 
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